Do you recognize this picture?

.....Then you may recognize the following dialogue. Both come from the mind of Quentin Tarantino and the film "Reservoir Dogs". Misters Pink, White, and Blonde are savagely beating a cop, trying to get him to give up the law's inside man(Mr. Orange), as Nice Guy walks in.
Nice Guy Eddie: " WHY YOU BEATIN ON HIM?! "
Mr. Pink: " MAYBE HE CAN TELL US WHO THE FUCK SET US UP! "
Nice Guy Eddie: " IF YOU FUCKIN BEAT THIS PRICK LONG ENOUGH, HE'LL TELL YOU HE STARTED THE GOD DAMN CHICAGO FIRE. NOW THAT DON'T NECESSARILY MAKE IT FUCKIN SO!!! C'MON MAN, THINK!! "
Bravo!
Who knew we would hear such common sense and insight from a fictional movie gangster. Usually, movies and TV are the only place that torture is truly successful. Nice Guy's point should be heeded. It doesn't work. It's not a reliable way to gain information. People will say whatever has to be said to stop the physical or mental battering, eventually. I would, and so would you.
Instead of being a COUNTRY that could claim the high ground on humanitarian issues, we have now become a HOMELAND that sends people to black sites to be waterboarded. Which we, as a HOMELAND, are no longer sure can be considered torture.
What needs to happen, in my opinion, is every lawmaker, politician and pundit that wants to argue that a certain procedure is not torture has to experience the procedure. Should be no problem. They know already what each of the "enhanced interrogation techniques" entail. Yet many still don't think or don't know if said "techniques" constitute torture. Well, it's time to nut up and do a little guinnea piggery so they can make an informed decision. I'd bet there would be far less ambiguity on what is or isn't torture.
So SUCK IT, Mukasey!!
After all these effite pricks hold the reputation of the Greatest Country in their grifting, grafting, blood-stained hands.
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TORTURE -- the act of inflicting excruciating pain, as punishment or revenge, as a means of getting a confession or information, or for sheer cruelty.
WATERBOARDING -- Waterboarding is a form of torture which consists of immobilizing an individual and pouring water over his or her face to simulate drowning. Waterboarding has been used to obtain information, coerce confessions, and also to punish, and/or intimidate. It elicits the gag reflex, and can make the subject believe his or her death is imminent while not causing physical evidence of torture.
INTERNATIONAL LAW -- All countries that are signatory to the UN Convention Against Torture have agreed they are subjected to the explicit prohibition on torture under any condition, and as such there exists no legal exception under this treaty. (The treaty states, No exceptional circumstances whatsoever, whether a state of war or a threat of war, internal political instability or any other public emergency, may be invoked as a justification of torture.) Additionally, signatories of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights also agreed to its Article 5, which states, No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.
...........But fear and ignorance have performed their tasks well and we have become sedated to the point where our values can be put on par with the Khmer Rouge. JimFuckinDandy!
.....And George " The Simple, Simian Sadist " Bush can add the United States to the long list of enterprises that he drove into the ground and then sold to his friends, for a profit.
HAVE A NICE DAY!

You wore green so you could hide.
theblaast,
citizen